Chapter 9: There’s No God till You’ve Met Him
But from both the ways you reach the shrine of no-mind. It is the ultimate in prayer and it is the ultimate in meditation. That is where the Sufi is a Zenist, and a Zen follower is a Sufi where Buddha and Bahauddin meet, where all the religions enter into the ocean of oneness.
Religions are like rivers: no-mind is the ocean. Come from anywhere, come from any direction, follow any path - but the day you come to the state of no-mind is the day of rejoicing. You have arrived home.
The second question:
Since I have been here I could not stop thinking that all these sannyasins are with you because they cannot stand on their own feet. They need an omnipotent father who makes all the decisions for them. Then today I felt a very strong sadness and joy when I listened to you. What is going to happen? I am afraid to become dependent on you.
The idea of becoming dependent, the desire to become dependent, and the idea and the fear of becoming dependent, are the same; they are not different. If you are afraid of becoming dependent, that simply shows you are not yet independent.
The fear is a negative state. And the desire to become dependent, to find an omnipotent father, somebody to lean upon, is a positive desire. Both are the same; the positive and the negative make the whole.
There are people who cannot stand on their own. They are not strong people, they have not yet attained their individuality. And there are people who are always afraid they may become dependent; they are not strong people either - they are also weak. Their fear shows their weakness.
The really independent person is capable of surrendering.
The really strong person is capable of falling in love - because he knows that his individuality is intact, that there is no way he can ever lose it.
Your fear shows that you don’t have your individuality yet - hence the fear. Otherwise, why should one be afraid? Remember, the individuality is your inner core: it cannot be taken away, nobody can take it away - not even God. It is your essential being: it cannot be taken away from you. And whatsoever can be taken away from you is not your essential being. One is very willing to give it, because it is burdensome; he wants to give that burden to somebody so that he can be relieved of responsibility. The other is very much afraid to give it.
Why is the other very much afraid to give it? The other is also feeling it as a burden, would like to give it - but there is great fear because of the idea that “This is me. If it is gone, I am gone.”