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Chapter 6: Trust Your Nature

I declare you are also holy, divine. There exists not a single being who is not holy. To me the word holy means whole. We belong to one whole; we are all holy, we are parts of one universal consciousness, we are ripples of one ocean. That’s what Kabir was saying yesterday: the wave is not different from the ocean. Even the dirty wave is not different from the ocean. Even the dirty wave is as much part of the ocean as is the clean wave.

And what you call dirty and what you call clean are human conceptions. A person can be a saint in one country and may not be thought of as a saint in another. A person can be a saint in one century and may not be thought of as a saint in another. Just think: Mohammed with a sword in his hand. Can any Jaina or Buddhist call him a saint? It is impossible. A sword in the hand? Mohammed cannot be called a saint according to the Jainas and the Buddhists. Can Mohammedans call Mahavira or Buddha a saint, when people are suffering and being tortured and you are just sitting under your bodhi trees doing nothing? What type of sainthood is this? These are escapists, not saints.

You may be surprised to know that Jainas don’t call Krishna a saint. They call him the greatest sinner ever because he persuaded Arjuna to go war. Arjuna was going to become a Jaina monk, he was saying, “I don’t want all this war, all this violence. I want to renounce this world. This is not worth it,” and Krishna persuaded him, “Do your duty. If God has willed it so, let it be so. Simply say ‘amen,’ and go into it. Just become a vehicle, instrumental.”

Arjuna argued and argued, but finally Krishna persuaded him. So Jainas say the whole responsibility of the Mahabharata War, the great Indian war, goes to Krishna. He is responsible for the whole violence.

Do you know what the Jainas have done to Krishna? They have thrown him into the seventh hell. Of course, they are free to do so because they write their own stories. In the Jaina puranas, Krishna is in the seventh hell, the worst hell, and he will have to be there up to the very end of this world.

Now who is a saint? How do you define a saint? And who is going to define it, and who decides the criteria? Different philosophies will define differently.

I am not a saint, because I don’t allow myself to be defined by anybody else. I am just myself. Call me sinner, call me saint - that is your attitude - but I am simply myself. And I leave myself undefined because, to me, reality is indefinable and I am part of reality, as you are part of reality.

When you want to renounce something, renounce definitions, renounce categories. Don’t allow anybody to pigeonhole you.

The moment you know your indefinable quality, you have transcended the world and you have attained to nirvana, you have become enlightened. An enlightened person is not a saint nor a sinner, cannot be. These are the categories of unenlightened people. People who have not yet become aware - they think in terms of good and bad. One who has become aware knows nothing as bad, nothing as good. He is simply a witness to all.

So I am neither an Indian nor a saint.

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