Chapter 4: Come Again and Again
I am reminded: he was traveling in a bus. He gave money for a ticket, the conductor returned change to him. He counted it and said to the conductor, “This is not right, you are cheating.” The conductor counted it again and he said, “Mister, it seems you don’t know how to count.” And this is the greatest physicist of the world.
It is a strange phenomenon that the great scientists are very stupid as far as religion is concerned - they are absolutely ignorant about it. Even the ordinary man is more aware of religion. The expert is basically to be understood as a man who knows more and more about less and less. The ultimate expert is one who knows all about nothing. The religious man is not an expert. His situation is just the opposite: he knows less and less about more and more, and ultimately he comes to a point when he knows nothing about all. And that nothingness has been called nirvana. It is not ignorance, it is innocence.
Let me try you on some other “not so ordinary men.” If I give you a name, perhaps you could give me one of your words of wisdom for each of these people: Mahatma Gandhi.
He was the most cunning politician the world has ever known.
He was the most idiotic politician the world has ever known.
He should be behind bars.
It is time for her to jump into a lake.
Your followers laugh and yet, with the kind of very unsettling raw statement that you make, you clearly disturb people who see that sort of statement as profane.