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Chapter 38: A World beyond Time

This also has to be understood, why all the people that we have killed - for example, Jesus, Socrates, al-Hillaj Mansoor, Sarmad - are immensely respectable after they have been killed. When they were alive they were condemned by everybody, not only by those who were in power but even by those who were not in power. Those who were not in power condemned them to show to the powerful, “We are with you.” And the powerful condemned them because these people were bringing a vision. If it succeeds, then there will be no domination in the world; then there will be human beings - everybody unique, flowering in his own way.

But all these people are worshipped when they are dead. That comes out of guilt. First people kill them. It is the powerful who kill them, and it is the powerless, the dominated, who support the powerful - unwillingly, but very fanatically, because they want to show to everybody, “We are more against them than you are, and we are more in favor of the powerful than you are.”

But once the man is killed, crucified, poisoned, these are the people who start feeling guilty, because from the very beginning they were not ready to kill the man. They had no problem with the man; he was not destroying any of their vested interests. They simply supported the powerful because they were afraid that if they didn’t support, if they remained silent, they would be suspected of supporting the person who has been killed.

A disciple of Jesus was in the crowd when Jesus was crucified, and he was asked - because he looked different from others, was not from the same place, was a foreigner, and nobody recognized him - he was being asked again and again, “Who are you? Do you know this man who is being crucified?”

And he said, “No, I have never heard about him. Just seeing that so many people are going this way, just to see what is happening, I have come.” Even he cannot admit that he is a follower of Jesus, because he knows the result will be another cross.

So finally, when these people are crucified, the people who had supported it unwillingly start feeling very guilty, “What have we done against an innocent man? He has done no harm to anybody. And whatever he was saying, he was right.” They can understand that these people in power are exploiting everybody.

It is a strange world. You know people now as kings and queens, and if you follow their ancestors, in the beginning, they were robbers. From where did they get their kingdom? They are great robbers who have killed many people, accumulated money, land, declared themselves as lords of the land, and now they have royal blood. They are in the lineage of criminals - and not ordinary criminals, big criminals. But they have power, they have money - naturally their blood is special.

The ordinary people have known all along that they are being crushed, murdered slowly. They labor hard and they cannot manage even one meal a day. They produce - but all that goes to those people who are in power. So when they support these people, it is unwillingly. That’s why that unwillingness, when the man is dead, turns into guilt; they start feeling that they have been participants in a criminal act. They have not done anything, but they were participants in a way; they were showing that they are in support of the powerful people.

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