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Chapter 7: Just Be

Chimon’s Lotus Flower
A monk asked Chimon, “What will the lotus flower be when it has not yet come out of the water?”
Chimon said, “The lotus flower.”
The monk asked Chimon, “What about when it is out of the water?”
Chimon said, “The lotus leaves.”

Setcho says:

The lotus leaves! The lotus flower!
He is so kind to tell you of them!
The flower coming out of the water -
What difference, before or after?
If you wander about, now north of the river,
now south of the lake,
Questioning Master Wang and the like,
As one doubt is settled, others will arise,
And you will puzzle over question after question.

Osho,
Isn’t the lotus flower a lotus flower at its conception, when it is floating in the pond, and when it is plucked from the pond?

And:

I have heard you tell us time and again that the realization of our enlightenment is inevitable - whether it be this minute, tomorrow, or the next life around.
Would you talk about where the individual’s responsibility lies for what is going to happen anyway?

And the third question:

What are the prerequisites for being a disciple?

Maneesha.

What is, is.

It is never different.

Its forms differ but its being remains the same.

To live in the forms is to live in illusions.

To see the being is to transcend the world.

Only seeing is needed.

What you are going to see is already there - has been there since eternity.waiting and waiting and waiting..

This is my comment.

Chimon is one of the greatest masters.

A monk asked Chimon, “What will the lotus flower be when it has not yet come out of the water?”
Chimon said, “The lotus flower.”
The monk asked, “What about when it is out of the water?”
Chimon said, “The lotus leaves.”

There ends the dialogue - it seems the monk has understood.

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