It was their vested interest: they needed a world of slaves, not a world of rebels. And you can make a person shrink if you make him guilty. You can make him afraid of hell, you can make him greedy for heaven, and this way you can make him completely forget this moment, this life. All the religions have been trying; either they are focusing you on the past, or they are focusing you on the future, beyond death. No religion bothers that you should be alive, laughing, living, loving, flowering here and now – and that’s my purpose.
Do you think that they do this because they are big business and that is the way to control people?
It is a great conspiracy between the politicians and the priests; it has been for thousands of years. The conspiracy is that the politician rules people as far as worldly things are concerned, and the priest rules people as far as their psychology, their mind, their soul, are concerned. And they have enslaved man in every possible way – the politician from the outside and the priest from the inside – they have destroyed all potential of human beings.
My work is to bring that potential back, make the person aware that he is not guilty. If Adam and Eve disobeyed God that is their business. You cannot be guilty for Adam and Eve disobeying God. This is so stupid!
In the first place, disobedience is not always bad. And as far as Adam and Eve’s disobedience is concerned, it was certainly beneficial to humanity. In fact God was the enemy, because he was prohibiting Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge and the tree of eternal life. Now, who is the enemy?
Wisdom, knowledge, science – all that we value in life – paintings, poetry, sculpture, nothing would have happened if Adam and Eve had not disobeyed. They would have still been naked animals in the garden of Eden, chewing grass!
My God, I hope that… I can’t picture all of us in this room chewing grass!
You cannot picture it because of Adam and Eve. You should feel grateful to Adam and Eve!
I do now!
You know, psychologists tell us all of our problems are directed back to our mother, but now you’re taking it so far back I can’t even comprehend it!