I have immense love to give, inexhaustible love to give, but no power to order or command or tell somebody to be this, be that. I don’t have any Ten Commandments.
Why have you said that you are a guest here?
Do you plan to leave, to travel?
No. I have always been a guest wherever I was, because I belong to the whole universe. So anywhere I am, that particular place is only a guesthouse. I am not planning to leave – I never plan. I can leave any moment, I may not leave ever.
You said, “If I must choose, I prefer to be Zorba rather than Buddha.” What does it mean?
It means that Zorba is the foundation and Buddha is the palace. Buddha is the peak, but the foundation stones are laid by Zorba. It will be foolish to choose to be a Buddha without having the foundation stones.
I am absolutely mathematical about it: Zorba should be there and the stronger a Zorba is there, the better a Buddha is possible, so I can become Buddha any moment. Zorba is absolutely needed as the basic energy out of which the Buddha is going to be carved. Zorba is the marble rock out of which the Buddha statue has to be carved. I choose the rock…and the Buddha is easy.
It is just a question of opening your eyes. I don’t bother about Buddha; I am worried about people who are not Zorbas. How will they become Buddhas? They don’t have the basic material out of which a Buddha is made.
And this poverty has been given to people by our religious leaders. They have been told not to be materialists. They have been told to be celibate. They have been told to live in poverty. They have been told that life is out of sin. All these things have destroyed their Zorbas. Otherwise, every man is a born Zorba the Greek.
And if everything goes according to me, every man will die as Zorba the Buddha. Between the Greek and the Buddha there is not much distance, but first you must be the Greek.
What do you mean when you say that you are the guru of the rich people? Are you rich, as are many of your sannyasins? Your critics – and I’m trying to understand – say that you collect money just as you collect the Rolls Royces and the watches. Are you against the poor?