And remember it, it is a simple principle of dirty politics that the government, FBI, and the state police do not seem to be interested in the crimes. We have given them solid proofs, and they have not taken a single step; otherwise, they could inform Interpol to arrest these twenty people and bring them here.

They could inform the Swiss government, they could inform the German government that these people are criminals and they should not be given shelter, before they escape into a country where the American government will have no power at all. For example, if they enter East Germany, then you will not be able to catch hold of them. And they are giving them time. The simple reason is, perhaps their agents are meeting them and finding a way that the whole thing can be forced on innocent sannyasins.

It has been overheard from FBI people that they would like at least five hundred sannyasins imprisoned. Strange – we give you the people who have done the crime, the people themselves have proved that they are criminals by escaping, and you want to imprison five hundred sannyasins. For what reason? To destroy the commune.

They will choose people who are absolutely necessary for the commune’s existence: doctors, legal experts, people who prepare your food, people who drive your buses – anybody who is in any way essential for the commune’s existence. With five hundred, they can destroy the whole commune. Their interest is not the crime that has been committed. They want to commit a bigger crime: their interest is in destroying the commune.

And now Sheela is trying her last strategy: if immunity is given to her she is ready to reveal all the names of the people who have committed the crimes.

Just the other day, Stern magazine wanted somebody from here to go to Germany for a discussion on the television with Sheela. I sent the message, “Why should anybody go there? Sheela can come here; I will face her myself, and I will see how much guts she has.” I am ready for an open discussion on television, and I am ready to expose everything she has done. Nobody else can do it. Nobody else knows her and her mind the way I know her.

She is telling lies to the press, unbelievable lies. I don’t possess a single thing. Everything that I use belongs to the commune, has been donated by sannyasins from all over the world. It was their gift to me. But I told her that I do not want to have any gifts, so make trusts; all those gifts should go to the trust. I want to remain exactly as I was born, without anything and that’s the way I want to go from the world – without anything. But if people love me around the world, and go on sending gifts, then make separate trusts for everything.

There are now ninety Rolls Royces. And she is saying in an interview with Stern that for one Rolls Royce I threatened that if she did not bring one Rolls Royce more I would commit suicide. It is simply so absurd. And it is against the law of economics. Everybody knows the law of diminishing returns: If you have one Rolls Royce, you may have great joy – but with ninety Rolls Royces, each Rolls Royce becomes less valuable.