Just think, Rosemary, if you were born in Russia, then you would not have talked about God at all. You would not be talking about the Bible; you would be talking about the Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. You would not be talking about the holy trinity of God the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost; you would be talking of the unholy trinity of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and V.I. Lenin, because you would have been told and conditioned by communist education.
If you had been born in a Jaina family you would have never thought of prayer, never – because there is no God, so to whom to pray? If you were born in a Buddhist family, things would have been totally different because you would have been conditioned in a different way. It is not you, Rosemary, who is asking this question; it is your conditioning. And all conditionings are wrong.
Meditation means a state of unconditioned mind. Meditation is the process of undoing the harm that every society goes on doing to every individual – communist or Catholic, Jaina or Jew, it does not matter. I am not talking about any particular conditioning that is wrong; I am saying conditioning as such is wrong.
Conditioning is nothing but a process of hypnotizing people: go on repeating from the very childhood, in the church, in the Sunday school…. You have been told about God and prayer and you have been told by your parents and teachers and priests and all the authoritative people. And the small child has learned how to imitate those who are in power. Now you have completely forgotten the beginning of conditioning.
No child is born as a Christian or a Hindu. No child is born with any idea of God’s existence – whether God exists or does not exist, whether there is one hell or seven hells or seventy or seven hundred. No child is born with any theology.
Meditation means a process of removing all that has been forced upon you so that you can become again a child. That’s what Jesus says. He says: Unless you are like a child you will not enter into my kingdom of God. He is talking about deconditioning, dehypnotizing. He is not using these words deconditioning, dehypnotizing, because these words did not exist in his days, but that’s what actually he is saying. He is saying: Unless you become a child again…. Again and again he says: Unless you are born again…because this birth has been contaminated by the people; they have poisoned your minds. You need a new spiritual birth. And it is possible only through meditation; there is no other way.
Prayer will mean you will be continuing the conditioning. If you are Christian, your prayer will be Christian. Your very question says…it has the stink of Christianity! A Hindu will not say this, he will not use such words: “And his holy spirit comes down to you.” A Jaina will never use such terminology – impossible, because for a Jaina, nothing comes down, everything goes up! He believes in growing up into a god. God is not someone there high above who comes down to you; there is no God. You have the seed of divineness in you; it grows upwards. The holy spirit descending on you is simply something that has been taught to you.
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