Discipline should not be the end, effort should not be the end. The effortless, the undisciplined, the totally free, must be the end. You should never be a slave to any discipline or you will never come to that certain point from which a jump can happen.
Even in a disciplined way of life you can be free. Really, the discipline should be your choice, not something imposed on you. Then you remain the master: any moment you can drop the discipline. And with me, there is no condemnation when you drop it. If you drop it, it is okay. You are free to do it or not to do it; you remain the master. Then discipline is not a discipline. It is just a question of your choice.
What makes someone a guru, a spiritual master?
When you are not there, when you have completely disappeared, the other becomes an open book to you. The more other-oriented you are, the less you can know what is happening to the other. The more you become self-oriented, the more possibility there is of knowing what is happening within someone else. A moment comes when you are completely dissolved. Then you know the other totally. Then the other is not the other; he is not something separate from you. You don’t react to him; there is no need. There is a response, not a reaction. Only in this way can one become a guru and help others, otherwise not.
To me, a spiritual master needs this capacity of being totally uninvolved, of being totally unrelated – just being an absence, with nothing to impose, nothing to project, no need to react. Then he can help you. He cannot come to any conclusions about you; he just responds to you.
That is what being with a guru means: being with a person who doesn’t react. Just by being near him you become more and more aware of yourself, if you are really a disciple. And by being a disciple, I mean being open to the presence of the master. You may be sitting before a mirror with closed eyes. Then the mirror cannot show you anything. The mirror is a mirror because it does not do anything on its own. It is a non-doer; it is only a presence. It cannot do anything positive.
The moment you begin to do something positive with someone, you become disturbed. You begin to change your form, you become violent. Even to do good is a violence, a subtle violence. If I don’t accept you as you are, I have to cut you somewhere, destroy something, change you like a sculpture, break you. Some pieces have to be thrown away, something has to be rejected; I will hammer you. It is violence, a very subtle violence – the violence of the good man, the moralist, the religious man.
A real master will not even try to make you good. Only then is he a master. He is mirrorlike, just a deep absence.