I know that it will happen to you because it has happened to me, and I am just as ordinary a human being as you are. I don’t claim to be a prophet or a savior or an incarnation of God. I don’t claim any speciality. I am just exactly like you. The only difference is you are still asleep, and I am awake. It is only a question…sooner or later you will be awake too.

So there is no need to worship me, there is no need to adore me. If you really love me, that’s enough for you to move into the experiment. I will stand as a guarantee that it happens. I will be your encouragement, but I will not be your savior. I will not take the responsibility, but I will do my best to shake you and wake you up.

Can I ask something?

Yes, now you can do.

Okay. Thank you very much. That, in essence, gives your teaching and it has already taken away some of my questions.
In one of your lectures you had already said – and I quote: “The only consistency in me is my inconsistency. I always contradict myself.” So a person has a right to change…”
I want to let you know that ever since 1969 or ‘70 when you were with fifteen followers in a little apartment in Peddar Road in Bombay…a friend of mine called Deracharya[sic] came and begged me four or five times – I was on a different assignment, and after four or five times, on some instinct I came, I did the interview with you, and after the interview you took me in your arms and said, “Come on, join me and go to the West and let my teachings be known.” And already since then there has been a love affair between you and me, and it has always been there. But I go with Victor Hugo in saying that you have the right to say what you feel, and I must have the right to say what I feel – even when we have mutual love…

That’s perfectly true.

I’ll defend that right to my death. Yes.
I love a lot of your teachings, and one of the things – and I had come back to Pune again, and lived fourteen days there and interviewed Laxmi. And I made a film called Ecstasy in Orange – I gave you a copy, I’m sure you never got to see it.

Mm, mmm.