I had heard that you had said, mostly as it pertained to homosexuals, that there was a loss of polarity in their lives. But how about those who are unwittingly infected, from homosexuals – normal, heterosexual people?
I certainly would have the will to survive. I would hate to be infected from some kind of contact with a homosexual, but I would have that will to survive. Could I overcome that if there was even some, some sort of medicine that might help or prolong or who knows what – whether it was Interferon or who knows what that they’ve had some success with. Would my will to survive help me?
I don’t think so, because the will to die is far more powerful than the will to survive. Ordinarily just the opposite is the case: your will to die remains dormant and your will to survive and live remains active. If you become infected from somebody whose will to live has died, and the will to die has become the dominant factor, he will provoke your will to die, which is very powerful because it has been dormant and never active.
Your will to live is exhausted, tired; you may like to live, but you have been using that will, that energy, that power. You have never used your will to die. That has remained dormant there, underneath. In fact, Sigmund Freud was the first man to discover that man has a wish for death. Before him it was not even a known fact that there is something like the will to die.
You can become infected only because your will to die is so powerfully there, ready to explode, that just a small infection is needed to make it creative. It will spread fast, and your will to life is exhausted, tired, old, spent. It is almost hoping against hope that there will be some way to survive once you are positive, an AIDS patient.
What it actually does when the will to live disappears: you become vulnerable to every kind of disease. Ordinarily, whenever a disease attacks you, your body, your will to live, creates antibodies to fight with it. But when the will to live is almost dead or dying, or is fighting for its own survival – and instead of the will to live, on the throne is the will to die – then any infection is welcome. No antibodies will be created in you.
This is the problem: your body is no longer fighting against any infection.
So then this community, it seems, is the only one in the world that’s going out of its way to avoid it.
Certainly. It is the only…a unique community.
So does the world want to die – is that what you’re saying?
And we are trying the same methods in our other communes around the world. Our communities will be the shelters for anybody who really wants to save himself.