People have to – I am now going to constantly make them aware and alert. I am going to help them not to ignore what people in power are doing, and I am putting in power people who simply have no ambition, who have been connected with me. And I know them – they have no ambition of any kind. In fact, they are taking the posts unwillingly. And my third idea is that we will be rotating; there is no need for power to remain in one hand for a long period, so that the person starts taking it for granted that it is his.
So, rotate power, change people. And it is good, we are doing that rotation in other fields: professors are gardening; a gardener who has been a professor is back in the university. A therapist is in the carpenter’s workshop and a carpenter – my own carpenter who has made this chair is a Ph.D., he can go to the university any day and be the vice-chancellor.
So, we are doing that in every field. We were just not touching the power elite, for the simple reason that there were so many complications with the government, with law courts, so we wanted the people to deal with it who knew, who had been dealing with it, who had been going to the court. But now we will take that risk. It is better to take the risk, rather than give somebody an opportunity to become an egoist. It is against his spiritual growth to give him the opportunity to become an egoist.
I assume that the rotation of roles does not include yourself?
I am not in any position, so rotation is impossible. I don’t hold any position; I am not even a member of the commune, I am not a voter. I live outside the city. I am just an outsider and I have been an outsider everywhere – in my own country I was an outsider, in my own family I was an outsider. To be an outsider seems to be my fate.
Who will make the appointments though, of the new leaders that are to be rotated?
There are councils. I can suggest my ideas to the councils, then it is up to them to function accordingly or they can decide on their own. I can simply give them my advice. I cannot dictate anybody.
And you feel that they are now sufficiently enlightened or self-empowered that they can make their own wise decisions?
They can. They can, certainly.
Without being too swayed by your recommendations or opinions?