Psychoanalysis or other trends take such a long time: five years, three years, just interpreting dreams. The whole thing seems to be so boring, and only few people can afford it. Even those who can afford it, what do they gain out of it? Many people have come to me who have been through psychoanalysis, but no self-realization has happened. They had been in psychoanalysis for many years. Not only have they been psychoanalyzed, they have psychoanalyzed many others and nothing has happened, they remain the same, the ego is the same. On the contrary, they are a little firmer, stronger. And the existential anxiety continues.
Yes, I don’t place much value on Freud and Jung, because my attitude is: how to drop the mind? It can be dropped, and it takes less time to drop it, it is easier to drop it. In fact, it can also be dropped without anybody’s help.
The East stumbled upon the fact nearabout five thousand years ago. They must have interpreted, because in the ancient Eastern books there are interpretations of dreams. I have not come across a single new discovery that has not already been discovered in the East somewhere in the past. Even Freud and Jung are nothing new. It is a rediscovering of the old territory again. In the East they must have discovered, but at the same time they discovered that you can go on interpreting the mind and there is no end to it: it goes on dreaming, it goes on creating new dreams again and again.
In fact, no psychoanalysis is ever complete. Even after five years it is not complete. No psychoanalysis can ever be complete because the mind goes on weaving new dreams. You go on interpreting, it goes on weaving new dreams. It has infinite capacity – it is very creative, very imaginative. It ends only with life, or it ends with meditation if you take the jump and die on your own. Death is needed for the mind, not analysis. And if death is possible, what is the point of analysis? These are two absolutely different things and you have to be aware. Jung and Freud are geniuses gone astray; great intellects, but wasting their time. And the problem is that they have discovered so many things about the mind, but they themselves cannot use it – and that should be the criterion.
If I discover a technique of meditation and I cannot meditate myself, what meaning can my discovery carry? But that too is different in the East and the West. In the West they say, “Maybe the physician cannot heal himself, but he can heal you.” In the East we have always been saying, “Physician, heal thyself first. That will become the criterion of whether you can do it to others or not.” In the West they don’t ask, they don’t ask that. In the West science goes on its own. Personal questions are not asked because science is thought to be an objective study, nothing to do with the subjectivity. It may be so in science, but psychology cannot be absolutely objective. It has to be subjective too, because mind is subjective.
The first thing that should be asked of Jung is, “Have you realized yourself?” But he was really very egoistic. He was thinking that he had realized. He was reluctant to come to India. Only once he came, and he was reluctant to go and see a saint, even a saint like Ramana Maharshi. He was reluctant, he would not go. What was there for him to learn? – he had everything already. And he knew nothing, just a few fragments of some dreams that he had interpreted – and he thought that he had interpreted life.