It is my country, and I wanted to see my people. I wanted to see whether they have grown up or still they are retarded. And I am sorry to say they have fallen far more than when I left them. The day I left them Athens was at its peak, the most intelligent, the very cream of the world. Now it is nothing. It has no importance in any area, in any dimension.
If people had followed Socrates, if they had followed Plato, Aristotle, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Epicurus, they would have been the very crown of the world today. But rather than following Socrates, they followed those idiots who poisoned him, and they are still in the hands of the same idiots who are the cause of their degradation. The religious heads, the politicians are in constant conspiracy against every nation.
I have come just to have a look. I am not going to stay here, so the bishops and the cardinals need not be worried. Even if they want me to stay here I am not going to stay. The way they have behaved with me the first time is enough; I don’t want it to be repeated. I will be here only for a few days to be acquainted with you, and to give you the message that you have completely forgotten, that you have the potential of creating Socrates and Pythagoras and Heraclitus – and yet you don’t count anywhere in the world.
There is somewhere some basic mistake being committed. You are listening to wrong people, you are being dominated by wrong people. They are leading you towards darkness rather than towards light.
Do you believe that in the case of you staying in Greece, or in Portugal, permission will be given because these countries will gain profit in a psychological, spiritual or touristic way?
I don’t know anything about tourism and its economics. I am not a psychologist…because to me psychology is a hindrance in spiritual growth; it has become a substitute.
In the East there has never been anything like psychology. Psychology is of the mind. I am not a psychologist, and I am against mind. My whole teaching is to go beyond mind, so I can say only one thing: if I am allowed to stay in any of these countries, there will be a spiritual revival. If it was only tourism, they would have loved me. If it was psychology only, there was no danger. The danger is that my basic approach is for the transformation of man, and no politician is courageous enough anywhere to allow that.
This man is perfectly ready to be enslaved and exploited. The transformed man will not be.
No church – Christian, Hindu, Mohammedan, Buddhist – is going to allow me to stay in their country, because if people start growing spiritually on their own, they don’t need any church, they don’t need any priest, they don’t need any religion. A spiritual person needs no religion at all. Religion is a poor substitute, a plastic substitute for spirituality.