That is up to them to say. I cannot stop anybody saying anything. I am not obsessed with sex. No woman has raped me yet. Do you want to try?

No.

Thank you.

What about the AIDS question? If you were in a period of silence…

Yes, yes, change the subject right now.

…For three years… I am not obsessed with sex!

I have been seeing the journalists. They change the subject when I touch their nerve.

If you would like to continue talking about it, I’m quite willing to. Is there anything you feel you can add?

You just ask what you want.

If you were silent for three and a half years and you only communicated with Sheela, where did your knowledge about the fact that AIDS was going to come down and destroy the world come from?

Any information that I had was from Sheela. Sheela was my only source of all information, all communication with the commune.

So it was Sheela who gave you the impression that AIDS was a problem, yet it was the same Sheela who also wanted to move aids victims into this commune?

Yes.