That is why tantric purity is difficult to understand and can be misunderstood. It is delicate! So to recognize a tantric sage is virtually impossible. Ordinary saints and sages can be recognized because they follow you – your standards, your definitions, your morality. A tantric sage is even difficult to recognize because he transcends all divisions. So really, in the whole history of human growth we know nothing about tantric sages. Nothing is mentioned or recorded about them because it is so difficult to recognize them.
Confucius went to Lao Tzu. Lao Tzu’s mind is that of a tantrically awakened sage. He never knew about the word tantra; the word is meaningless for him. He never knew anything about Tantra, but whatsoever he has said is Tantra. Confucius is representative of our mind, he is the arch-representative. He continually thinks in terms of good and bad, of what should be done and what should not be done. He is a legalist – the greatest legalist ever born. He went to see Lao Tzu, and he asked Lao Tzu, “What is good? What ought one to do? What is bad? Define it clearly.”
Lao Tzu said, “Definitions create a mess, because defining means dividing: this is this, and that is that.” You divide and say A is A and B is B… you have divided. You say A cannot be B; then you have created a division, a dichotomy, and the existence is one. A is always becoming B, A is always moving into B. Life is always becoming death, life is always moving into death, so how can you define? Childhood is moving into youth and youth is moving into old age; health is moving into disease and disease is moving into health. So where can you demark them as separate?
Life is one movement, and the moment you define you create a mess, because definitions will be dead and life is an alive movement. So definitions are always false. Lao Tzu said, “Defining creates non-truth, so do not define. Do not say what is good and what is bad.”
So Confucius said, “What are you saying? Then how can people be led and guided? Then how can they be taught? How can they be made moral and good?”
Lao Tzu said, “When someone tries to make someone else good, that is a sin in my eyes. Who are you to lead? Who are you to guide? And the more guides there are, the more confusion. Leave everyone to himself. Who are you?”
This type of attitude seems dangerous. It is! Society cannot be founded on such attitudes. Confucius goes on asking, and the whole point is that Lao Tzu says, “Nature is enough, no morality is needed. Nature is spontaneous. Nature is enough, no imposed laws and disciplines are needed. Innocence is enough; no morality is needed. Nature is spontaneous, nature is enough. No imposed laws and disciplines are needed. Innocence is enough. Knowledge is not needed.”
Confucius came back very much disturbed. He could not sleep for nights. And his disciples asked, “Tell us something about the meeting. What happened?” Confucius answered, “He is not a man, he is a danger, a dragon. He is not a man. Never go to that place where he is. Whenever you hear about Lao Tzu, just escape from that place. He will disturb your mind completely.”