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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: Beyond Enlightenment #24, (mp3) - psychology, consciousness, solomon


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Eastern Psychology: The Science of the Soul

Talk #24 of the Series, Beyond Enlightenment

"Modern psychology is in its very childhood. It is just one century old. The concept of enlightenment belongs to Eastern psychology, which is almost ten thousand years old. Modern psychology is just beginning from scratch, it is at the ABC stage. Enlightenment and beyond enlightenment are the very end of the alphabet of human endeavor: XYZ.

"Modern psychology is a misnomer because the word psychology originates from the word psyche. Psyche means the soul. The exact meaning of the word psychology would be the science of the soul. But it is a very weird word. Psychology denies the existence of the soul and still goes on calling itself psychology. It accepts only the physical body and its byproduct, the mind. As the physical body dies, the mind also dies; there is no rebirth, there is no reincarnation."
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Osho continues:
"Life is not an eternal principle, but just a byproduct of certain physical material things put together.

"You have to understand the word byproduct. Even the idea of a byproduct is not very original. In India, there has been a school of materialists, at least five thousand years old, called charvakas. They describe mind as a byproduct of the body. Their example is very fitting. Remember, it is a five thousand year-old example. We can find modern contemporary parallels to it. In India you must have seen people chewing betel leaves, pan. It consists of four or five things – the betel leaf and three or four things more. You can eat them separately and they will not give the color red to your lips; but if you eat them together they will create the color red as a byproduct. That red color has no existence of its own, it is a byproduct.

"In a contemporary example, look at a watch working.

"I have heard that Mulla Nasruddin when he retired, was presented with a gold pocket watch by his friends. It was automatic, and from the very beginning he was surprised; he thought what a miracle it was that it went on and on. But after three or four days it stopped. He was very much surprised, what had happened?

"When it stopped he opened it up and found a small dead ant inside.

"He said, 'Now I know the secret! This ant is the driver, and now he's dead how can the watch continue? But those idiots should have told me that there is a driver! – it needs food, it needs water. And sometimes you even have to change the driver!'

"When a watch is running, and if it is automatic, what makes it tick? Is there some immaterial entity like a soul? Open the watch and take the parts apart, and you will not find any soul. That's what charvakas said five thousand years ago: that if there is a soul, then cut a man open and you should find it. Or when soldiers are cut open in the war – so many souls would be flying upwards. Or when ordinarily a death happens in your house naturally, the soul must leave the body."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

psychology… consciousness… zen… psychologists… sane… byproduct… innocent… solomon… jung… farid

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