"In fact, the most essential is missed. Only the periphery can be understood that way. The innermost is not objective, the innermost is subjective. You can study it from the within, not from the without.
"Psychology is as if somebody wants to study love and watches two lovers hugging each other, holding hands, sitting together, making love – goes on collecting data about how two lovers behave. This won't give him any idea of what love is, because love is not on the surface. The surface can be very deceiving, the appearance can be very deceiving. Love is something very inner. Only by being in love do you know it – there is no other way to know it.
"Psychology tries to understand mind from the outside. The very approach makes mind material. Only matter can be understood from the outside, because matter has no inside to it. The mind can only be understood from the inside, because mind has no outside to it – the first thing.
"That's why psychology goes on becoming more and more behavioristic, more and more materialistic, more and more mechanical – and more and more suspicious about the soul of man. The soul is completely denied by psychology. Not that the soul does not exist, but because the very approach prohibits it, the very approach becomes a limitation. The conclusion depends on the approach. If you start wrongly, you end wrongly.
"The second thing to be understood is that psychology tries to understand mind, not to go beyond it – because psychology thinks there is no beyond to it, it is the end. Religion also tries to understand mind – not to understand mind itself, but to go beyond it. The understanding is to be used as a stepping-stone.
"So religion is not concerned with the details of the mind. An essential understanding of the functioning of the mind will do. If you go into details there is no end to it. Religion also studies dream, but just to make you awake, that's all. Dream itself is not the concern. It does not go deep into the dreaming structure, and it does not go ad infinitum analyzing dreams. It simply tries to find the essential structure of the dream in order to transcend it, so you can become a witness."