Individual Talk

Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: From Personality to Individuality, # 7, (mp3) - natural, shadows, krishnamurti


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Enlightened Fragrance of Revolution

Talk #7 of the Series, From Personality to Individuality

"Yes, he is enlightened, but something is missing in his enlightenment. It is like when you arrive after a long journey at an airport. You have arrived but then suddenly you find your luggage is missing. With J. Krishnamurti something more serious has happened: the luggage has arrived but he is missing!

"It is a little bit complex but it is not unusual. It has happened many times before but for different reasons. The reason with Krishnamurti is certainly novel, but the situation is not. There have been people who were enlightened but they still remained Christians, Hindus, Jainas, Buddhists. To me it is unbelievable. Once you are enlightened you are finished with all the conditionings of the mind. Then how can you still be a Christian?

"What was your Christianity? It was a coincidence that you were born in a certain family and those people conditioned your mind in a certain way."
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Osho continues:
"They gave you a certain ideology, gave you a certain religious outlook, gave you a certain theological jargon; and you learned it like a parrot.

"I know a child cannot do anything against it, he is helpless; he has to learn whatsoever is being taught to him. Even without being taught he picks up things from the environment, parents, friends, neighborhood. He goes with his parents to the church, to the synagogue, to the temple, and he is continually imbibing influences. Whether you are directly teaching him or not, he is being conditioned indirectly.

"But parents and teachers don't take any chances; they don't leave it just to indirect influences. They make every effort, directly, to convert the innocent child who comes into the world absolutely unconditioned – a pure mirror capable of reflecting anything. But the society, the culture, the religion – they start painting on the mirror.

"They can paint a Krishna, they can paint a Christ, they can paint a Moses, they can paint anything. They can paint Karl Marx, they can paint Christianity, communism, fascism – anything. And the child is so helplessly dependent he cannot say no. He really has no idea of no.

"The child believes and trusts the people who are giving him everything, helping him, supporting him: the mother, the father, the familythe warmth, the coziness. They are providing all the opportunities for his growth; they are not to be distrusted. The question does not arise in the mind of the child, and it is natural that it does not arise.

"But because of this natural situation all the religions have committed the greatest crime in the history of man; and that is, making the child a Christian, a Mohammedan, a Jew, a Hindu, a communist – without the child's acceptance, without the child's readiness, willingness. Of course the child has not said no, but he has not said yes either. If people are sensitive they will wait for the child's yes.

"If they are really loving they will wait till the child asks them, 'What is this church all about?' They should make every effort to see that he is not being influenced indirectly; the question of direct influence should not even arise."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

natural… shadows… childhood… crowds… answer… sleep… sophists… speakers… krishnamurti… herod

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