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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: The Last Testament,  Vol.1, # 4, (mp3) - moment, sleep, kant


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Talk #4 of the Series, The Last Testament, Vol.1

This is a fascinating recording of an interview with Osho, while at the commune in the USA, answering questions for the first time from the world’s press.

In this interview: Jeff McMullen, 60 Minutes, Australia
Of the many extraordinary things that you say, the one on which I would never debate you is that you are an ordinary man. How ordinary a man are you?


Are you the new man that you say the world needs?


Do you put yourself on a plane with other great men: Jesus, Buddha, Krishna?

"No, I am just myself and I don't belong to any past, past prophets, messiahs. I am the beginning of a new man, absolutely discontinuous with the past. I have nothing to do with Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Krishna, Buddha. To me they are all dead and of no use for the future new man. In fact, they are the barriers for the new man to be born. I am fighting against all those fellows."
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Osho continues:
Are you a god?

"No, there is no God. God is the greatest fiction created by cunning priests, and the new man is not going to have any God. The new man is enough unto himself. No God is needed. God is needed by retarded people."

Was Einstein retarded? He believed in a God.

"Then I will have to explain to you that Einstein was a great physicist, he was a genius, but as far as other directions of life are concerned he was below average.

"I am reminded: he was traveling in a bus. He gave money for a ticket, the conductor returned change to him. He counted it and said to the conductor, 'This is not right, you are cheating.' The conductor counted it again and he said, 'Mister, it seems you don't know how to count.' And this is the greatest physicist of the world.

"It is a strange phenomenon that the great scientists are very stupid as far as religion is concerned – they are absolutely ignorant about it. Even the ordinary man is more aware of religion. The expert is basically to be understood as a man who knows more and more about less and less. The ultimate expert is one who knows all about nothing. The religious man is not an expert. His situation is just the opposite: he knows less and less about more and more, and ultimately he comes to a point when he knows nothing about all. And that nothingness has been called nirvana. It is not ignorance, it is innocence."

Let me try you on some other 'not so ordinary men.' If I give you a name, perhaps you could give me one of your words of wisdom for each of these people: Mahatma Gandhi.

"He was the most cunning politician the world has ever known.Adolf Hitler.

"He was the most idiotic politician the world has ever known."

Pope Paul.

"He should be behind bars.Mother Teresa.

"It is time for her to jump into a lake."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

moment… sleep… logical… enjoy… program… quality… dancing… kant… einstein… mozart

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