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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: Live Zen, # 16, (mp3) - lost, pope, tanka


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Have You Had Your Dinner?

Talk #16 of the Series, Live Zen

It seems to me that Zen provokes responses from one's intuition, though I'm not even quite sure what intuition is. Is there a connection between Zen and intuition?

I have heard that Gurdjieff used to serve up food to his disciples and watch them overeat and become drunk in response. You are serving up such delicacies in these evenings it feels that we need to refine our palettes and select the right implements before we can hope to savor what you make available.

"The anecdote, which concerns Tanka's asking a monk,'Have you had your dinner?'

"Is a way in Zen to ask someone, 'Have you got it? Are you fulfilled? Has contentment happened to you? Are you awakened? Is your being enlightened?' Zen uses ordinary words like dinner and raises them to heights unimaginable."
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Osho continues:
Tanka asked a monk, 'Where are you from?
…Have you had your dinner?'
"In Zen you are coming from nowhere and you are going to nowhere. You are just now, here, neither coming nor going. Everything passes by you; your consciousness reflects it but it does not get identified. When a lion roars in front of a mirror, do you think the mirror roars? Or when the lion is gone and a child comes dancing, the mirror completely forgets about the lion and starts dancing with the child – do you think the mirror dances with the child? The mirror does nothing, it simply reflects.

"Your consciousness is only a mirror. Neither you come, nor you go. Things come and go. You become young, you become old; you are alive, you are dead. All these states are simply reflections in an eternal pool of consciousness.

"Unless you understand it, these anecdotes will look absolutely absurd.

"First asking him, 'Have you had your dinner?'

"If you met Tanka – and Tanka is one of the rare Zen masters – what will you answer to him? You will not even understand what he means by dinner. Zen has developed a special language of its own: 'Have you had your dinner?'

"The monk remained silent. Perhaps he could not understand: 'What does he mean? – is he asking me, inviting me for dinner?' What kind of inquiry, when you meet someone – suddenly, the first question, 'Have you had your dinner?'

"Seeing the monk, Tanka had asked, 'Where are you from?' It is an effort of Tanka to provoke the man to understand the language.
'Where are you from?'
The monk replied, 'From the foot of the mountain.'
"He missed. He is not asking about the place from where you are coming, he is asking the ultimate question: 'From where is your consciousness coming? Do you understand that you are endless, that you are not coming from anywhere, you simply are?'

"Tanka said, 'Have you had your dinner?'

"Tanka is asking the monk another question to give him an opportunity to understand. Dinner does not mean dinner, it simply means, 'Are you fulfilled? Are you complete in yourself? Have you found your center? Are you nourished by existence? Have you found your home?'
The monk said, 'I have had it.'
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

lost… pope… tanka… hofuku… manjushree… noah… setcho

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