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Nothing Is Better than Anything

Talk #10 of the Series, Live Zen

Does everyone have their own separate light?
I can see that in the physical world it is light that shows us the distinction between two people, and that in darkness, definitions and distinctions are seemingly obliterated.
But it seems to me it must be just the opposite in the metaphysical world – that in darkness or ignorance we have the illusion of separateness, while enlightenment brings the awareness that one is not separate from everyone and everything around one.
What is your comment?

The second question: Feeling myself full of light sometimes, trembling with energy at other times, the mind is happy to grasp hold of these experiences as 'something' – after all, it is said, 'Something is better than nothing.'
Yet when those moments of nothing are there – when there is no cognition of who I am or who you are, when there are no exotic happenings – that is what the mind can make no sense of: I only know that that space is, and that nothing is better than something.
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Osho continues:
And the third question:
I seem to imagine that if I am not thinking something, doing something, involved in some project or other, I am as good as dead; to participate in life seems to me to be life itself.
But as long as I am doing, I recreate myself continuously, don't I? – when the whole point is to die to oneself.
What is your comment?

"Ummon's comment about everybody's inner light is absolutely true. Everybody has his own light. But it is true only as far as we are talking about it, as far as it is only a concept. Once it becomes your experience, everything dissolves, including you. Then there is light, oceanic light, in which everyone has dissolved like dewdrops.

"Ummon's statement, 'Everybody has his own light,' can be misunderstood. It is very easy to misunderstand such words as 'his own light.' I would not have used that; I would say, everybody is part of one light. And the part is not separate nor is it separable, and the part is not smaller than the whole.

"The part is equal to the whole.

"The dewdrop itself is the ocean.
Ummon spoke to his assembly and said,
'Everybody has his own light. If he tries to see it,
everything is darkness. What is everybody's light?'
"Here he is making a significant point: one has to relax to such totality that one is not. Even to be is a tension. When you simply disappear, there is light – your disappearance is the appearance of light. But if you try to see where the light is, in your very effort you miss it. The very effort to try brings your ego, individuality, you – and you are darkness. As an ego you will not find any light.

"That's what he is saying: 'Everybody has his own light, but if he tries….' The whole question is whether you relax or you make effort, whether you are spontaneously losing yourself in the ocean or trying, because the very trying keeps you separate. 'If he tries to see it, everything is darkness. What is everybody's light?'

"Ummon is talking to his disciples. Apparently, what he says seems to be very contradictory."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

painting… boundary… leap… inside… ummon… mendel… setcho