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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: The Original Man, # 6, (mp3) - change, crowd, manzan

 

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Roots in the Universe

Talk #6 of the Series, The Original Man

"Anando, before we discuss Manzan and his statements – a few necessary things.

"One is the word mind

"In Sanskrit, there are two words: one is man from which the English words mind and man both have been derived; another is chit, which can be approximately translated as consciousness, awareness, watchfulness.

"The translating of these words has taken such a long journey. With Gautam Buddha already it was not Sanskrit; it was a small branch of Sanskrit, Pali. The words have already begun to waver and to take new shapes and forms.

"Then when they reached China, they took even more unrecognizable forms, and after China, they reached Japan. They have gone so far away from their origin that to translate them from Japanese into English is really a gymnastics!

"This translator has used a certain method: wherever man, the ordinary mind, is concerned, he uses a small M."
 
 
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Osho continues:
"And wherever chit, the universal consciousness, is concerned, he uses mind with a capital M.

"In writing, it is perfectly good; in reading, it becomes more difficult. Whether the M is a capital or a small M, in both cases you are going to call it 'mind.'

"So remember, all the time he is using mind…I will remind you when it is a capital M and when it is a small M. You have the small-M mind, a dewdrop of the universal Mind. When this dewdrop disappears in the ocean, it becomes a capital-M Mind. It is no longer yours, it is nobody. It is simply the universal, existential, awareness. It does not belong to anybody, it is nobody's possession.

"Secondly, it has always been a difficult process for an enlightened man to bring his experience into language. Everybody falters. It is not the person's fault; the very process is one of trying to do the impossible. The experience of the universal consciousness is so far away from language that when you drag it down to language, it becomes something else. Then it can have many interpretations.

"Your experience was one, absolutely singular, absolutely clear. There was no question of any alternative meaning or any interference. But when you bring it down to the level of language, then thousands of problems arise.

"You have to remember the difficulty of the enlightened man, and you have to be compassionate, because our language is so poor that it cannot contain things of the beyond.

"For example, Krishna's Shrimad Bhagavadgita has one thousand interpretations. Now, either Krishna was so mad that he would speak words with one thousand meanings…A word with one thousand meanings means nothing! And those meanings are contradictory to each other. But in bringing them to language, they become vulnerable. There are one thousand great commentaries on Krishna's Gita, and they all condemn each other. They all project their own mind – and they are free, because Krishna is not there to interrupt, to say, 'This is not my meaning.'

"A word can have many meanings. Particularly older languages – Sanskrit, Greek, Hebrew, Arabic – have a beauty but also a difficulty. Their beauty is that they are very poetic."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

change… crowd… inconceivable… heart… gibberish… judgmental… purity… manzan… dostoevsky… chekhov
 

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