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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: The Supreme Doctrine, # 10, (mp3) - past, known, mahavira


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The Eternal Play of Existence

Talk #10 of the Series, The Supreme Doctrine

"Knowledge of the Brahman is impossible, but knowing is possible. Knowledge and knowing are basically different. A very subtle difference has to be understood. Knowing is always in the present, knowledge is of the past. Whenever you say, 'I have known,' it means that the experience has become past, it has become part of your memory. When you say, 'I am in a process of knowing,' the experience is still continuing; you are still in the experience. It is not part of your memory. Your being is still involved in it.

"As far as the world is concerned, the knowing stops. It becomes knowledge. That accumulated knowledge is known as science. Whatsoever man has known becomes science. Science is knowledge. Religion never becomes science because religion is an eternally continuing process of knowing."
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Osho continues:
"You never come to a point where you can say, 'I have known.' The Brahman never becomes the past; it is always the present. The ultimate cannot be reduced to the past; it cannot be reduced to knowledge. It is always a riverlike flow of knowing.

"So you cannot say you have experienced God because that means it is a past thing. It means you have transcended it – that you have already experienced and gone beyond. You cannot go beyond God, so you can never say meaningfully that you have known, that you have experienced. You cannot put him into the past; he cannot be made part of your memory. You can be in a process of experiencing – but it is never experience, it is always experiencing. A lived process is never a dead memory.

"It is just like this: you cannot say, 'I have breathed.' You are breathing. Breathing cannot become past. If it becomes the past you will be no more. There will be no one to say that he breathed. Breathing is always a continuous process. You are always breathing – it is in the present. You cannot say, 'I have lived,' because then who are you? You are life, but you cannot say, 'I have lived.' Life is a continuous process. It is always here and now in this very moment. The ultimate means the ultimate life, the ultimate breathing, the ultimate experiencing, the ultimate knowing.

"So the first thing to be understood is that the Brahman cannot be reduced to knowledge. So whosoever says, 'I have known,' the Upanishads say is ignorant. He is insensitive to the great mystery of life. Whosoever says that he has known has not known. He may have known through the scriptures; he may have known through others; he may have gathered information. But he has not known, because one who knows will know that God can never be reduced to knowledge. He remains a process.

"God is not a thing. A thing can be known. God is a process. A thing means something which has stopped. A process means something that goes on and on and on. In the ordinary mind we always think of God as a thing."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

past… known… brahman… future… god… foolish… conception… immortality… mahavira… bodhi

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