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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: Zen: The Diamond Thunderbolt, # 4, (mp3) - naked, silence, ummon


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The Clouds Never Make Any Commotion

Talk #4 of the Series, Zen: The Diamond Thunderbolt

"Maneesha, before I enter into your tremendously significant anecdotes, I have to reply again to the old goat of Puri, the Shankaracharya. He is such a nice fellow. He goes on inventing such things that you cannot even imagine. Now he has come with the idea that I lead in the ashram everyday a procession of naked women. Do you think you could have imagined it?

"Now these seven thousand people here are evidence, but who will tell this idiot?


"I have to send Sardar, because it is a question between Pune and Puri. Only Sardar can convince him, tapping three times on his head, 'Stop talking nonsense.'

"Another thing he has said is that he cannot bring an AIDS-negative certificate, because he is a celibate."
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Osho continues:
"Celibate or no celibate, if you want to discuss with me in this assembly of buddhas you will have to bring the certificate. And particularly because you are a celibate, the certificate has become an absolute necessity.

"It is out of celibacy that homosexuality has arisen, and AIDS is the final flowering of homosexuality. It is a very religious phenomenon. The Buddhist monks, the Christian monks, the Hindu monks, they are the originators of homosexuality. And the whole credit goes to these monks for bringing AIDS to the world. Celibacy is the cause of AIDS.

"His idea that I lead a procession of naked ladies proves simply that he has become really a Hindu saint, because all Hindu scriptures are full of stories that whenever a Hindu saint reaches to his highest sagehood, God becomes afraid, because he may dethrone him. So he sends beautiful women to distract the mind of the sage. And obviously up to now they have been successful in distracting, because God has not been replaced.

"But it certainly proves one thing, that the Shankaracharya of Puri is a sage. He has started dreaming naked processions of apsaras. Apsaras are heavenly prostitutes. But why should I enter into his dreams? To me he is a harijan, untouchable.

"It reminds me of Sigmund Freud's great insight that people who remain celibate long start dreaming of women, or if they are women they start dreaming of men. Now his idea of a procession is perfectly right as far as Hindu sages are concerned – but I was not the leader of the procession. Perhaps Swami Agnivesh, who goes on leading processions of harijans, and now has declared that he is going to lead processions in Bihar, in Karnataka and in other provinces. But instead of Agnivesh he is really afraid of me. It is his fear because Agnivesh belongs to the same rotten tradition. They are just playing different roles to exploit the Hindus; one the higher classes, one the lower classes; but their aim is the same. But he is certainly afraid of me, if he has seen me in his dreams.

"Sigmund Freud's insight was that you dream only if you suppress something."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

naked… silence… grace… center… ummon… tozan… joshu… sozan… jesus

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