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Osho Audiobook - Individual Talk: Zen: The Quantum Leap from Mind to No-Mind, # 5, (mp3) - gibberish, expression, baso


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Talk #5 of the Series, Zen: The Quantum Leap from Mind to No-Mind

"Vimal, the first thing you have to understand is that by becoming a dangerous, ferocious animal you gave a migraine to poor Maneesha. Remember it always: falling below humanity and then sitting behind a poor girl! It is fortunate that she is still alive. You have done everything to kill her.

"You were dancing with her as a gorilla. And I had left this place, just because I did not want to see a gorilla's dance. And you see the result now? Be ashamed and give your gorilla dress to Sardar Gurudayal Singh! It does not suit you. It will suit Sardar Gurudayal Singh anywhere. He can go into the city and freak people out – he does it anyway! But in a gorilla dress, and with his laughter(

"Sardar Gurudayal Singh!


"Take that gorilla dress from Vimal tomorrow."
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Osho continues:
"And when the dress reaches you, Maneesha's migraine will disappear. It is not a migraine, it is simply fear that – who knows? – the gorilla may be sitting behind her again.

"You have asked, Vimal:
Baso said to his master, Nangaku,
'The way is formless. How can we see it well?'
"The question is very logical and rational. If the way is formless, obviously you cannot see it. To see anything, that thing has to be objective, with a form. If it has no form, if it is infinite, how can you see it?

"Baso in his own right later on proved to be one of the greatest masters, but even while he was a disciple of his master Nangaku, his questions were immensely important. 'The way is formless.' That's what Buddha has said – there is every support for his question. And now he is asking Nangaku, 'How can we see it well?'

"But Nangaku was not in any way a smaller master.
Nangaku answered, 'It is like the eye of the law,
possessed by the ground of mind,
seeing clearly the way, the samadhi of no-form.'
"The answer seems to be absolutely absurd, makes no sense what he is saying.

"He is saying: 'There are thousands of samadhis, graves of people who have seen it and declared it as formless. I am not the only one. Its formlessness does not prevent its being seen; you just need a different vision, a different eye'. In Yoga they have called it 'the third eye,' which can see the infinite.
'It is like the eye of the law'
"The word law is a wrong translation of dharma. There is always a difficulty in changing great things from one language to another language. The Sanskrit dharma, the Pali dhamma can mean religion and can also mean the law, because religion is nothing but the law of existence, the very order of this universe.
Nangaku answered, 'It is like the eye of the law,
possessed by the ground of mind"
"Underneath your mind there are roots of your being, which possess your ultimate vision, the third eye.
"seeing clearly the way, the samadhi of no-form.'
"This whole existence has no limitations; the boundary is nowhere."
In this title, Osho talks on the following topics:

gibberish… expression… baso… hogen… nangaku

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